July 15, 2008

Product Review | Spoonflower

(left) Spoonflower on 100% Kona cotton | (right) Me on 100% Belgian linen

Last night when I got home I found a white envelope with the cute Spoonflower logo waiting for me on my desk chair. For the most part it is very nice... nice hand/drape, and it's got a crisp quality cotton feel- what you'd expect of the Robert Kaufmann 100% cotton Kona fabric. My initial impression: It's OK. I try not to have high expectations when working with a new service for the first time. I often find that there's kinks to be worked out and with Spoonflower, there's no exception.

This isn't really a negative thing, it's just the learning curve for me. I had my reservations about a few things, and in my mind, I was not far off.

1/ Color Control- this is my Number One concern as I take great care in choosing my colors. SF doesn't offer any sort of color palette for purchase, from which you can refer and choose LAB colors, which is the color mode they recommend. Simply converting a file from CMYK to LAB is not going to ensure you get the colors you want. Even the most simple palette can help guide an experienced artist who can gauge where the colors will shift if they chose to edit them. The problem with not having a color reference, is that you are literally guessing about the output on their end. Every printer- EVERY printer- is going to yield different colors, even if the difference is slight. For those who are as obsessed as I am, this will be something you will want to work with your printer of choice before plunging in and making any large amounts of fabric. Strike-offs (or viewing samples) are key- and it can take many strike-offs if you are stabbing at a color.

Doing a test on paper is going to get you nowhere. Paper vs. fabric/laser vs. inkjet/model to model/computer to computer, will all yield different results. This is why being able to work with LAB colors supplied from the printer your final product will be produced from is essential to avoid the big guessing game. If doing a longer run with high investment, maintaining integrity or for crazy folk like me, this is a time and money saver for sure.

Alternatively, there are digital printers who will offer color matching services- often at a premium. But this can certainly ensure your creative vision will come out as expected. This is a great option to offer customers who may not want to learn the skills of color matching. Perhaps SF will offer this in future.

2/ Color Saturation- this can be a bit of a combination of the color control aspects, but it can also be due to the amount of ink that goes down on the fabric. I don't pretend to know about SF's printer model and its finer workings, but I do understand that the amount of CMYK (cyan, magenta, yellow and black) that hits the surface will yield different saturations and intensities. You can see this on almost any home printer by doing tests with the paper or output quality. Manipulating the output quality from the poorest/fastest, to highest/slowest will vary immensely. While typical digital textile printing does not require the highest and most saturated settings (indeed, it can easily be too saturated causing bleeding and dye-bonding issues), it does benefit from a slightly higher than the lowest setting- just to give it a touch more pigmentation. Again, I don't know Spoonflower's methods, but it's clear that from my own desktop printer to that of the LAB reference book of another digital printer I worked from, this is very soft and faded in comparison, which leads me to believe they are working at a lower saturation output than we do- for which I'm sure they have reasons (bleeding probably). But it's another reason a LAB color reference would be helpful. If you can't control the saturation which is, from what I read from others, probably the biggest difference people see in their colors, then at least you'll know where you stand. It's not viable to say "make your images 10% darker", but perhaps it's a suggestion...

3/ Image Detail- I admit, my skepticism crept in when I saw that SF recommend a 150 dpi (dots per inch) image. 150 is not very fine. Typically, digital printers would like 300 dpi- perhaps higher. The higher the dpi, the finer the details will be. Because of the nature of printing on fabric, there is a certain amount of bleed- almost indiscernible to the eye, but it does soften the whole image. Working in a lower dpi only exacerbates that bleed... the finer details are lost to begin with.

If you will look at the SF on the left vs my fabric on the right, you'll notice in the "poof" how much of the detail was lost. The Kona cotton is a very smooth surface and really should take fine detail very well. The linen, in contrast has a lot of texture, but none of the detail is lost.

I'm not sure why SF wants a 150 dpi file- perhaps it's about speed and handling of the files. Maybe it was recommended by the printer model itself. Or maybe it's a software thing. Regardless, I'd personally like to see this be stepped up to a higher dpi. Not sure if it's possible, though.

Other points:

4/ Grain Misalignment. I've read many reviews which state the grain was not squared before printing began (a problem with the way the fabric was rolled onto the bolt in the first place, not Spoonflower's fault at all). What this does is cause the horizontal grain to be skewed. When you square the fabric (so that the horizontal grain is perpendicular to the selvage) the print would be at a diagonal. This can be a real issue when sewing. For the record, this was not an issue for me at all. Perhaps it's been corrected, or the luck of the run.

5/ Washability. I haven't gotten this far yet. I've read from a number of sources it washes well and very little fading- if any at all. I think it would hardly be noticeable on my fabric since it's so faded and light to begin with.

6/ Fabric Choice. I'm just not a cotton poplin gal. I like texture- and a bit of heft. This is probably SF biggest drawback for me now, as I just wouldn't choose this fabric. They have stated that they will eventually make other fabric choices available.

7/ Price. Well, it just can't be beat! Seriously, as far as digital printing goes, they have the best prices out there per yard for this quality fabric as far as my research has taken me. $18 per yard for 42" custom printed fabric? Yeah, that's good.

Spoonflower is still in Beta mode- this is just getting off the ground for them. I was very impressed with the ordering process. They have a great system in place whereas you can view the full repeat of your image draped into a proportionate image in the size fabric you're planning on ordering. It's perfect for people who can't visualize what their design may look like on 4 yards of fabric. I applaud Stephen and Kim's efforts and wish them every bit of the success they will deserve. I hope they will take all the remarks that I've made and have been reading to help perfect their system. Digital textile printing is fast on the rise, and I think the crafting world will be a more exciting place for it! The apparel, home and accessory industries have been utilizing digital printing for sampling purposes for years. It's extremely exciting to see this technology made available to the everyday people who have an interest in seeing their work on fabric.

37 lovely notes:

Victoria said...

Informative post. I know just from my own home printers the amazing variations I will get depending on my media/quality settings, and the paper I am using. I am sure fabric is even trickier.

My husband is an offset-pressman and even with top of the line, state-of-the-art machinery, it can be an exhausting process to get all the colors just right and the images just so. Sometimes he spends hours tweaking and re-tweaking to get it exactly as the customer had wanted.

jkziel said...

Thanks for the review. I've been toying around with spoonflower, but I don't have expertise to know what is good/not good/etc in the world of fabric printing and digital designing.

I read on the blackapple's blog about the color control problem.

Interesting, thanks for sharing!

littlebyRD said...

Oh my gosh - so much to go through - I had noooo idea! I agree - the linen just pops more. It is very lovely!

Angie said...

Michelle, as a new, budding textile artist, I've been following your blog for months and have learned so much. Thanks for such a candid review of Spoonflower. I have some experience with digital textile printing and am aware of some of the challenges to achieving the desired results.

I look forward to your future posts.

picciolo said...

very interesting review!
: )

Krissy said...

Nice post! Only thing I can say about the fact they they want a 150 dpi might be the max the printer outputs. I'm not sure about fabrics, but I think it can go both ways, we have large format digital printers here that max out at 150 lpi. Maybe that's what they use?!
I really don't have any idea, just throwing that out there.

ThePeachTree said...

I love your honesty in review. It's so important to paint an accurate picture of your dealings with companies. Too often we fluff over not so smooth experiences for the sake of argument or just because it's easier to be passive. I'll definitely come here when I want the real deal!

daisy janie said...

The info contained herein is definitely what will separate the men from the boys with regard to this method of printing. I prefer to know what I'm getting each and every time I spend my hard-earned $. Thanks for getting this out there, Michelle!

Mrs.French said...

I love them both, but like you, I choose the linen...How do you do everthing you do (my head spins just reading it)? You are a whirlwind girlie...a talented tornado!

ismoyo said...

Thanks for this great post. I am currently setting up some designs to have printed and i am aware of possible color differences in print. Thanks for reminding me.
I was also kind of confused about the 150dpi instead of 300.
Trial and error and keeping my fingers crossed. Nevertheless real happy with this new service! Oh the possibilities!

Red Fish Circle said...

Thanks, that was really informative.

Betz White said...

Great review, thanks. I just ordered a colorful test swatch from SF myself!

Tyler said...

very informative post. thanks for the insightful review. agreed, your linen holds the palette and detail beautifully. love the dandelions. and thanks for the kind comment on my blog. we'll be in touch!

vana chupp said...

Wow...I had no idea what is all involved in the process. Thanks for the info. Very useful!

Camille said...

I knew a lot went into your fabrics, but just not the details. I've always appreciated your talents, but I have a deeper understanding and now a finer appreciation for what you do. (Too many details for me. I think my head would explode!

Of course, I like your fabric better, much crisper. I like fabric with a little weight and texture, too. It is much more interesting.

(I'll pass the birthday wishes on to John!)

Heather Moore said...

Wow, wow. Thanks for all the info. I've been wondering whether to try out Spoonflower, but all my designs are one colour, so wasn't sure it was worth the effort quite yet. Also, the fabric texture is a biggy for me. (I'm about to go and pick up the most gorgeous bolt of linen texture cotton for making pillow covers with. V. excited!)

I love your pussywillow fabric. Actually, I love them all. I think you could go so big with all your beautiful prints!

High Desert Diva said...

Excellent review

Shannon said...

I have never heared of Spoonflower and am interested in learning more about them.

I love your fabrics you have designing and I wish you lots and lots of success!

Cover That Mother said...

Very detailed review. I was looking at SF, but I have no knowledge in fabric/printing on fabric.

I like their premise. But, the color saturation and not being able to pick up details won't work for the artwork I have in mind.

Great post

cathehs said...

Thanks for the very informative review. I have been trying to figure out what I can fit onto my square to test out all the details with Spoonsflower.

Also, thanks for stopping by my blog! Glad you liked the interview on Crafty Synergy.

Mal said...

very informative - I've been toying with ordering something myself just to test it out. I actually think their prices are kind of expensive for the printing type and fabric, but everyone has to start some where.

It's really good to know that there are not printer profiles to use in an image application - I would LOVE to have the LAB profile for PhotoShop before I printed anything. My husband is a photographer and has gone through GREAT pains to choose a printer that allows him to color correct and preview before ordering - this would be the same issue for me with fabric design.

esque said...

Thanks for your review! I too have considered using Spoonflower, but have been too hesitant to do so, mostly for the reasons you mention. However, I'm sure they'll work out the kinks and like someone else said, you gotta start from somewhere.

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Sew Bettie said...

The linen does look great. I hope that Kim makes heavier weight fabric available soon.

My favorite thing about spoonflower is that you can order in small quantities at such a low price. The other places I've come across are all so expensive unless you order a huge amount.

Amor De Plata said...

Great review! I love your linen fabric. The cotton loses too much detail and color.

quaint handmade said...

this post is so informative - thank you. i love the linen, too

please sir said...

I've been wondering about the results of Spoonflower - very informative. Where do you usually get your prints done?

Patricia said...

Wow! I'm going to have to reread this a couple of times. A lot of information - thanks! I was also please with the two little swatches that I ordered but like you the biggest draw back for me is the quality of the fabric itself. I need something with a little more body. Not that I know much about this mind you!

Marissa Fischer said...

I have really been curious about SF I'm super grateful for the breakdown, lots to think about.

The Jen said...

Spoonflower was absolutely amazing! I went to their site from your link (the first I've heard of it). What a great review. Thanks for turning me on to the service. ~jen~

Shiny Black Shoes said...

great post, very informative!

ThreadBeaur said...

Great review. I have been looking for some first hand experience with spoonflower. Thanks for all the detail you gave!

Jess said...

Hi. I'll throw in my two cents, since I also tried out Spoonflower. As you mentioned, I found the colors on my swatches to be very desaturated and dull-looking. And I used exactly the same color values in two of the prints, and they came out looking wildly different. So yes, they seem to be having some color control issues. Here's hoping they work out some of the bugs, since a lot of people are very excited about their services.

April Tosch said...

Hi,

Hard, hard hard!!! I own a digital textile printing studio and have been printing for several years: www.annmeredith.com

Honestly, their prices (from what I read) are great. I mean, too great! My charges compared to theirs are astronomical, 10 times as much!

Why? Because there is so much waste. Maybe I am too picky but I will not let anything out of my studio that isn't perfect so a lot gets scrapped.

Washing...Be careful here. Digital textile printing technology leaves much to be desired. I hand-wash all my fabrics after printing with the exception of my wallhangings and believe me, they fade.....noticeably and all the other digital textile printers I've heard of have the same problems.

If the fabric is drycleaned, then no problem, zero fading. But it depends on the end use of the fabric.

Most of my work is for interior decorators who use my fabrics for upholstery and artwork. Therefor my fabric doesn't have to go through regular washing. Please, do a test-wash before sewing.

Fading is a huge problem and it's really the nature of the beast. If SF has been able to overcome this then more power to them!

Also, at $18 per yard??? Well, I think maybe "I" will be one of their customers! I can't even buy my raw materials at that price.

Good luck to all of you.

April Tosch

April Tosch said...

Hi,

Me again!

Belive it or not, I print at 72dpi and my results are amazing. I have no idea why they would ask for 150?? Alot more depends on the number of "passes" the print heads make over the fabric. The more passes, the better quality so honestly, dpi isn't as big of an issue as you would think.

Tina said...

I just received my invite. Thanks for this very informative post. Although, all their tips for uploading and creating the file is for Photoshop. I created a repeat pattern in Illustrator. I couldn't find Lab. Do you know how I can use Lab colors in Illustrator, and set it up for 150dpi? Did you use Illustrator or photoshop?

Tina said...

You can scratch my questions (above). I did some tinkering around and answered my own question.

Thanks again for a good post.